STFU AND LISTEN, WHITE PEOPLE

Re: the anon asking about terms. I prefer POC. I think 'non-white people' makes it sounds like white people are the standard and POCs are the 'other'. Just sounds a little condescending to me, even if that's not the intention. [remember, intent is not magic]. Those are my two cents.

kaxbeokay — Sun, 03 Jun 2012 19:22:17 -0400

But does white supremacy always have to be a European thing? Egypt and even Mongolia have a Nazi Party, for example. And within Europe there have been several people mistreated who to the untrained eye would be seen as white. It could be associated with beauty - as in, people prefer a lighter partner because lighter skin in their eyes means more beautiful children, and thus more likely to succeed in society. Because it's pretty people who usually do best in society.

kaxbeokay — Sun, 03 Jun 2012 18:31:03 -0400

Kaxbe: are you referring to shadism? because that in itself is just a facet of white supremacy.

Please feel free to ignore this if u think it will start another ridiculous shitstorm for you, but I'd just like to ask a question RE: capitalizing the b in Black. Is this something white people should do also (I mean, should white people also capitalize the b in Black when writing), or is this just for black people? I just don't want to start doing it and then find out I'm actually appropriating something and hence stripping it of its meaning. Thanks! :)

kaxbeokay — Sun, 03 Jun 2012 18:28:49 -0400

Kaxbe: why would that be appropriation?

Hi :-) Just wondering if the term 'non-white people' can be used interchangably with 'people of color'? I've heard both terms used by poc, though I'm not sure which is preferred and if there are particular contexts in which either term is more appropriate...? I'd really appreciate your thoughts on this if you've got time, please. Thanks a lot! :-)

kaxbeokay — Sun, 03 Jun 2012 18:28:16 -0400

Kaxbe: eh, i’ve used both. maybe one of our followers can give a better explanation?

Anonymous asked: I think it's problematic when you call Asians "white-passing poc", because Asians are usually not being able to pass as white, since they look, of course, Asian.

tokokomo — Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:30:51 -0400

Anonymous asked: I think it's problematic when you call Asians "white-passing poc", because Asians are usually not being able to pass as white, since they look, of course, Asian.:

bankuei:

ladyatheist:

I’m pretty sure I never used the term “white-passing PoC” to describe Asian people. However, a lot of East Asian people are white-passing. Having lighter skin and straighter hair gives you a pass into white society that people with darker skin and kinky hair do not get. That’s just something that you can’t ignore.

[Rebloggable by request]

I wonder if this person is mistaking “White identifying” vs. “White passing”?

Because there’s a LOT of white identifying asian folks.

Quoting myself from elsewhere:

“White Identifying” indicates people of color who imitate white privilege behaviors, and support and defend privileged behaviors, in the hopes of white approval.

Notice that this doesn’t have jack to do with whether someone has grown up completely surrounded by white people, what languages they can, or can’t speak, what food they eat, what music they listen to, who their friends are, whether they can “pass” or not, etc.

None of that is the problem- privileged behavior, supporting racism, and, policing other people of color to do the same? That’s the problem.

It’s most definitely not limited TO asians, but it’s a common enough thing that along with color privilege and the expectation of model minority myth to buy off APIA folks in collaborating against other POC, it’s a thing.

If I recall correctly this shadeism is also seen in Indonesia where the darker skinned Papoeans are seen as lower then the lighter skinned Balinese. It was that way before colonization, too. Could it then possible be a biological human preference to like lighter skinned people better rather then a cultural one?

Sun, 03 Jun 2012 03:48:37 -0400

CC: BIOLOGICAL

BIOLOGICAL

BIOOOOLOOOOGICALLLL

No. Noooooooo. It is definitely about culture.

And you’re right, a lot of Asian countries had shadeism before colonization, you do not need colonization to produce problematic perspectives on ethnicity/race but white supremacy has only enhanced and enforced these perspectives.

Lighter skin is historically/culturally associated with wealth because lighter skinned people generally worked less and were within their households more, while the darker skinned people were out toiling in the fields (so darker skinned people were associated with poverty/labor).

It is not a biological preference.

Is there then racism within the black community too? Between, say, darker and lighter skinned individuals, prefering those with more European admixture? And you're right to assume I don't know shit, that's why I am asking hon. :)

Sun, 03 Jun 2012 03:41:32 -0400

CC: Not racism, internalized racism: shadeism/colorism and prejudice. Lighter skinned Black individuals such as myself have privilege within the Black community and within this country (The United States).

Someone is trying to make the argument that America is the most oppressive, most genocidal, most imperialistic country ever.

crankycritic — Sun, 03 Jun 2012 03:39:36 -0400

amodernmanifesto:

lifeisliterallylimited:

memonite:

remorsecode:

dumbthingswhitepplsay:

ladyatheist:

abokononist:

antisocial-socialist:

ragingsocialist:

youngbadmanbrown:

twcflorkin:

askinnyblackman:

ricksantorum-2012:

communismkills:

Sources or it didn’t happen.

I can’t think of a single example where we’ve been imperialist or genocidal.

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now normally i wouldn’t reblog anything communismkills or ricksantorum-2012 touched but this serve is too beautiful to leave it

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With all the interracial relations going on these days, won't the problem of racism solve itself sooner rather then later?

Sun, 03 Jun 2012 03:38:13 -0400

CC: If you think racism is solved by mixed race children, you obviously

a) don’t know shit about racism

b) don’t realize that interracial relations have been around for hundreds of centuries

and

c) don’t know about the existence of Latinidad

pookie-n-dilla: heycmere: Richard Aoki was an American civil...

crankycritic — Sun, 03 Jun 2012 02:59:59 -0400

pookie-n-dilla:

heycmere:

Richard Aoki was an American civil rights activist. He was one of the first members of the Black Panther Party, and the only Asian American to hold a formal leadership position.

(Source: 1, 2, 3)

word?

Someone's a bit buttfrustrated tonight. I'm just telling it like it is, nignog.

Sun, 03 Jun 2012 02:41:16 -0400

CC:

Did that guy want credit for being knowingly evil instead of accidentally evil?

Sun, 03 Jun 2012 02:28:10 -0400

CC: lol idk & idc

How do you respond to white people who acknowledge their privilege, yet don't care about the plight of nonwhites? Because, as a white dude, I honestly don't see why I should care about racism. It benefits me and keeps the darkies down. I fucking love it. Your white readers should realize that obviously no nonwhites will thank them for being antiracists so might as well embrace the privilege, not scorn it.

Sun, 03 Jun 2012 02:23:06 -0400

CC: It’s obvious that you’re a shit human fucking being, so go on and continue to be that way. Honestly, I’m glad you’re just exposing what white people think on a subconscious level. Because seriously, why dismantle a system that benefits whites at the cost of others? It isn’t HURTING them to be a shitty fucking useless sack of air.

And I mean, it’s just fucking AWFUL that white people get no thanks for DECIDING to be DECENT HUMAN BEINGS. How dare the fucking darkies not thank them and treat them like special fucking snowflakes for acknowledging they’re being oppressed? The mere fact that these antiracists have decided to be nice to the darkies is enough for them to want to kiss their beige asses, amirite or amirite?

How do I respond to white people who acknowledge their privilege and yet don’t care about the plight of nonwhites?

Come find me and find out.

I read through a fair chunk of your blog and it comes across a lot of the time as if you're spoiling for a fight. I work in an area of Cardiff, UK, that is a cultural mixing pot of diversity and every day I come into contact with different people of different races and I don't treat them as if they were 'White' or 'Minority'. I treated them as humans. Even when people are rude or homophobic. But I don't blame a whole group. So why do you? There's a sense of ignorance shining through here.

Sun, 03 Jun 2012 01:56:17 -0400

CC: Oh my God. You’re fucking awful. The “I live with people of color, how can I be racist?” excuse is getting so fucking old I can’t stand it.

The fact that you think someone still has to be nice to an oppressive person shows that you need to evaluate your fucking life.

And where have we generalized anyone you fucking paranoid cracker?

white people =/= all white people

If I say “Hey, I want some candy.”

Are you gonna bring me every fucking piece of candy on the planet?

Disappear.

Me: There's many things the dictionary gets wrong, one is the definition of atheism, the other racism. When I hear white people bring out the dictionary definition I think they're basically saying "what about me?!". Well what about them? The systems instituted in the country takes good care of them, so why do they need to be included? They want things to go their way, they wouldn't give a shit if it went poorly for anyone else but them, in short their world is centered around themselves.

Sun, 03 Jun 2012 01:53:18 -0400

So as a white male I've made it my mission to try to make other white males aware of their privilege. Namely, I try to inflame them about issues of race, exhaustively pointing their privilege, admittedly to the point of harassment. Now on multiple occasions they've accuse me of reverse racism, to which I explain there's no such thing. That no matter how mad I make them, they're still privileged and their views can't matter. They just won't seem to accept that their opinions don't count!

kaxbeokay — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 22:17:34 -0400

Kaxbe: that’s white folk, for ya!

What do you think of the cracked article '5 Ways Modern Men Are Trained to Hate Women' you'll have to google it as you can't leave links in the ask.

kaxbeokay — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 22:17:03 -0400

Kaxbe: i think it’s spot-on, actually.

This is a mesasage of support amid the flurry of some of the mosy disgusting racist shit poeple have been writing to you. Obvi this message does nothing to help, but I really just want you to feel like you have some support. I can't imagine how emotionally taxing it must be to have to deal with fucking racist scum everyday. Anyway, just thought you should know your blog is really awesome and so are you! Fuck whiteness.

kaxbeokay — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 22:16:45 -0400

Kaxbe: thanks

TV Can Lower Self-Esteem in Kids except White Boys

tokokomo — Wed, 30 May 2012 19:28:35 -0400

mustardhat:

touchoftea:

“Television and magazines are often regarded as factors that influence girls to be thinner that leads to young girls to many eating disorders. There are hundreds of studies that draw conclusions between media like television and magazines and poor self-esteem or body image.

[…]

Television makes children, especially white boys, believe that they can achieve things easily whereas black kids are often told that they may not achieve much in life.

‘Young black boys are getting the opposite message: that there is not lots of good things that you can aspire to. If we think about those kinds of messages, that’s what’s responsible for the impact,’ Nicole Martins said.”

Article

You don’t say?

is this cultural appropriation in fandom? sweet-peach-tea(.)tumblr(.)com/post/24032864900/more(-)piya(-)beloved(-)inspired-by(-)coatofstars -- it makes me slightly uncomfortable as a PoC, but I get a bit muddled up with what is perhaps over-sensitivity, and what is inappropriate. thanks!

kaxbeokay — Wed, 30 May 2012 18:13:40 -0400

Kaxbe: pfft, don’t worry about being “over-sensitive”.

it does seem to be cultural appropriation, especially considering that the character is Kurt from “glee”. i read the fanfiction too. appropriation and exotification of Indian culture right there.